Thunderbirds '65 vs. Thunderbirds 2004

[Steve Gerard]

http://www.dan-dare.org/FreeFun/Thunderbirds/Thunderbirds1960sAllVehicles.jpg1965 original

http://www.popentertainment.com/thunderbirds.jpg2004 movie:eek:

I.R. Thunderbird 1 1965 original TV series vs. 2004 reboot Movie? Best designs?

I.R. Thunderbird 2 1965 original TV series vs. 2004 reboot Movie? Best designs?


I.R. Thunderbird 3 1965 original TV series vs. 2004 reboot Movie? Best designs?


I.R. Thunderbird 4 1965 original TV series vs. 2004 reboot Movie? Best designs?


I.R. Thunderbird 5 1965 original TV series vs. 2004 reboot Movie? Best designs?


I.R. Thunderbird MOLE 1965 original TV series vs. 2004 reboot Movie? Best designs?


I.R. F.A.B. 1 1965 original TV series vs. 2004 reboot Movie? Best designs?


I.R. TRACY ISLAND & underground Hanger/Silos 1965 original TV series vs. 2004 reboot Movie? Best designs?


Which island is better the original 1965 TRACY ISLAND or the 2004 movie TRACY ISLAND?

Which I.R. underground hanger is better the 1965 larger than life or the 2004 movie small realistic set of T2 hanger & T1 SILO & T3 SILO set?

Did I.R. need a manned space station T5, when a SHADO S.I.D. spy satellite could do the job? The 2004 movie could have had T5 replaced by one S.I.D. spy satellite. However, the movie plot would have not been possible since T5 would be an unmanned Satellite and the Hood could not have trapped the Father and Tracy brothers in T5.

[Chrisof]

Uh oh. Well let me think.

1965 TB1 wins for its realistic look, however i do like the movie one.

1965 TB2 wins as it again looks way more plausible, besides its too iconic to really change.

2004 TB3 wins (ducks). I actually like this one with the exception of the cockpit windows and lading gear.

1965 TB4 wins hands down. A tiny mini sub with arms wont do much to raise a fireflash from the bottom of the ocean. :)

The durys out on TB5. The movie one had a lot more thought put into it while the origional has charm :D


So Thunderbirds 2004 vs Thunderbirds 2009 anyone :p

[Silent Bob]

I dont think of it so much as a re-boot, its more like 'total pants'.
The only good piece of casting was Ron Cook and Sophie Myles as Parker and Lady P. The lack of any rescues conflicted with what International Rescue is all about.
And i will never forgive Jonathan Frakes for turning Thunderbirds into Spy Kids 4!

[Nick Haysom]

The 2004 movie could have had T5 replaced by one S.I.D. spy satellite. However, the movie plot would have not been possible since T5 would be an unmanned Satellite and the Hood could not have trapped the Father and Tracy brothers in T5.

The movie plot would not have been possible in the series - none of the writers would have had Jeff and 4 of the boys on T5, having to be rescued by the remaining one. :rolleyes:

[Steve Gerard]

Silent Bob you are 100% correct when you stated The only good piece of casting was Ron Cook and Sophie Myles as Parker and Lady P. The lack of any rescues conflicted with what Inernational Rescue is all about.
And i will never forgive Jonathan Frakes for turning Thunderbirds into Spy Kids 4!
:)

[shadokp]

The only vehicle that I think is an improvement in the movie is Thunderbird 5 - I never really liked the design that much and the movie version looks more fuctional. TB 3 in the movie almost made it to the list.

KP

[Chrisof]

For me the most annoying thing about the movie, is the potintial it had.
I think we could all gotten over the designs and casting i they had just had a decent ploline and script to back it up :/

And im not completely against frakes. The studio kinda forced the spy kids/ford angle on him.

The Baldwin bros remake looked like another case of "nothing like Thunderbirds" as well.

[shadokp]

I think some of the elements of the movie worked well. The movie missed on the whole team concept. There is a mentality that children love to see other children be the heroes on screen and in some cases this is probably true but for the most part, children watching the Thunderbirds TV series want to be older and part of the IR team.

When the plot of the movie went off into the "Children save the day" segment, I think it lost it. If this format was a TV series then I can see this story as being one of the episodes where the children have to save the day, but not the first story!!!

KP

[Derek Eaton]

I quite liked the beginning cartoony titles then its all downhill from there.

[Steve Gerard]

The overall agreement is that the story Plot of the THUNDERBIRDS 2004 movie is what ruined it.:(
http://www.impawards.com/2004/posters/thunderbirds_ver4.jpg

The cast of our favorite characters the Tracy family from THUNDERBIRDS that were reduced to cameos... :(
http://barros.rusf.ru/films/posters/thunderbirds_2004_teaser1.jpg

[Chrisof]

A good question would be, if you had a shot of making more Thunderbirds how would you do it?

[TonyB]

Jonathan Frakes stated in an interview before the 2004 movie was released that it had to be treated as a prequel, it was to set up potential further movies which would be more faithful to what Thunderbirds was all about, the rescues themselves, not the kids running about being chased by the Hood et al.

Unfortunately the movie was not good enough to warrant further installments, perhaps if the director and the producers had done some home work and they should have looked at the Judge Dredd movie in 1996 and the reception it got, to see where it was all going to go wrong.

[hwels]

Besides Lady P & Parker I enjoyed the first (and only) rescue at the start of the movie.

[Steve Gerard]

hwels , I agree.

Besides Lady P & Parker I enjoyed the first (and only) rescue at the start of the movie.

[Steve Gerard]

If a sequel had been made, then the next THUNDERBIRDS movies would have been all about Tracy father & sons executing rescues showcasing the International Rescue Thunderbirds vehicles.

[Chrisof]

Well they would still focus on Alan Tintin and fermat as those characters already have been established. The tracy bros may ave got more screen time but not much as they are no longer main characters.

Oddly enough tho it the film acually features more rescuing than Thunderbirds are go and Thunderbird 6 :confused:

[Steve Gerard]

Oddly enough tho it the film acually features more rescuing than Thunderbirds are go and Thunderbird 6:eek:
I believe that you are correct Chrisof.

[Steve Gerard]

Alan & Tintin would have to become secondary to Tracy father & sons executing rescues showcasing the International Rescue Thunderbirds vehicles. :rolleyes:

[AR1]

Don't get me started on the film.

1960's Thunderbirds craft are much better. They have character, presance and even now, look futurisitc (up to a point). The digital effects on the film were not that great either.

Saying that, the designs for Thunderbirds 1,3 and 5 were not too bad for the film, but I wish we saw more of them doing what they were designed to do....RESCUE!

GRRRRR

[Silent Bob]

Jonathan Frakes stated in an interview before the 2004 movie was released that it had to be treated as a prequel, it was to set up potential further movies which would be more faithful to what Thunderbirds was all about, the rescues themselves, not the kids running about being chased by the Hood et al.

Unfortunately the movie was not good enough to warrant further installments, perhaps if the director and the producers had done some home work and they should have looked at the Judge Dredd movie in 1996 and the reception it got, to see where it was all going to go wrong.

Well a new Judge Dredd film is in pre-production at the moment, so who knows maybe Thunderbirds well get another crack of the whip.

[Steve Gerard]

There is a UFO movie in pre-production...so maybe it will open the door for another THUNDERBIRDS movie.:eek:

[Nick Haysom]

I'd say this guy pretty much says it all (you need to scroll to the bottom of the page):

Thunderbirds are gone (http://www.find-dvd.co.uk/dvd/Thunderbirds/1001003.htm)

(though the misspelling of Kyrano is unforgiveable!)

[Derek Eaton]

Nice review. Two stars - Was it a good day?

[TonyB]

Two Stars, they must have been in a really good mood, :confused:

And note the price, only £2.85, mind you anything over free is expensive for that DVD. :p

[Nick Haysom]

Well for some unknown reason with Find-DVD you select a rating out of 5 but it ends up being out of 4! :confused: So it should be 2 stars out of 5...

[kennetzel]

I didn't mind the movie. I like the way they kept the basic look of Thunderbird one. I did not like them getting rid of the pod idea for Thunderbird two. I found it to be an interesting look at how Thunderbirds as we know it may have gotten started...how Jeff was a rescuer, then when Alan got old enough, he took his role as the man in charge. Thunderbird three stayed pretty close to original design too. That's good. What drew me to Thunderbirds was the design of the craft, and they did pay homage to excellent design. But Thunderbird two was too different for my liking. I guess the plan was (for those complaining about no rescues) was to launch the Thunderbirds as a franchise. Once this "episode" got out of the way, they were going to do more films dealing with the main concept of the Thunderbirds. But, unfortunately, the movie was a bomb and no sequels are planned...last I heard.

[Nick Haysom]

Well it is very unusual these days for any action-adventure movie to be made without an eye on the sequels and I don't think this was an exception.

[Virgil Tracy]

It's Thunderbirds 1965 all the way

[Nils]

'65 thunderbirds, hands down, as for the 2004 movie, i would have done a few thing to make it more enjoyable.

1. remove all the new characters (Fermat, Ohana,...) and keep loyal to the orriginal cast (the fact of Brains having a son, that scores 100 out of 100 on the wierdness scale.

2. remove the doing, boing, platt sound effects out of the fight scenes, they had guns in the original show for pete sake.

3. they should have kept with the original vehiche designs, TB4 looks more like a leftover prop from "the abbys".

4. give the characters there Right ages and put them In the right thunderbirds (Jeff in TB2 and gordon in TB3, WTF).

i can go on for hours, but if i seen jonathan frake, i need to ask him only 1 thing:

"You havent even seen the original Thunderbirds show, havent you, trek-boy?"

[Virgil Tracy]

And the hole thing with The Hood going to Tracy Island, He didn't need to get the Thunderbirds, because 1: there fake!, and 2: They are on TV, and that's a big no-no from the 1965 one

[Steve Gerard]

'65 thunderbirds, hands down, as for the 2004 movie, i would have done a few thing to make it more enjoyable.

1. remove all the new characters (Fermat, Ohana,...) and keep loyal to the orriginal cast (the fact of Brains having a son, that scores 100 out of 100 on the wierdness scale.

2. remove the doing, boing, platt sound effects out of the fight scenes, they had guns in the original show for pete sake.

3. they should have kept with the original vehiche designs, TB4 looks more like a leftover prop from "the abbys".

4. give the characters there Right ages and put them In the right thunderbirds (Jeff in TB2 and gordon in TB3, WTF).

i can go on for hours, but if i seen jonathan frake, i need to ask him only 1 thing:

"You havent even seen the original Thunderbirds show, havent you, trek-boy?"

You are right.:eek:

[Silent Bob]

i can go on for hours, but if i seen jonathan frake, i need to ask him only 1 thing:

"You havent even seen the original Thunderbirds show, havent you, trek-boy?"

Jonathan Frakes actually admitted in an interview, he had never even heard of Thunderbirds until he was offered the directors chair!!! :confused::(:confused:

[Steve Gerard]

Jonathan Frakes actually admitted in an interview, he had never even heard of Thunderbirds until he was offered the directors chair!!! :confused::(:confused:


why THUNDERBIRDS 2004 movie failed... never hire a Director that does not know about the THUNDERBIRDS!:eek:

[Virgil Tracy]

why THUNDERBIRDS 2004 movie failed... never hire a Director that does not know about the THUNDERBIRDS!:eek:

If they wanted a good Director they should of got us lot Hay:D

[Steve Gerard]

If they wanted a good Director they should of got us lot Hay:D

Fanderson Forum members should have script approval at least.

[Virgil Tracy]

Fanderson Forum members should have script approval at least.

And then we could say to them re-write! LOL:p

[Steve Gerard]

And then we could say to them re-write! LOL:p


I know we fanderson forum members could easily of outlined a far superior screenplay for THUNDERBIRDS movie.:rolleyes:

[Virgil Tracy]

It would be the best, What a shame they didn't get us