R.E Barry Gray - Fanderson CD TV Soundtracks

[Captaincubbio2009]

Hello there,

I was watching them on EBay last night to see how much they had sold for & it was a lot of money. The 2 CD Soundtrack to U.F.O made the most at £155.00 GBP Pounds & 2 CD Soundtrack to Space 1999 Year 1 made £129.00 GBP Pounds

Plus the two gift TV Soundtrack cardboarded sleeved ones fetched £42.00 GBP Pounds each.

I originally E-Mailed the guy & told him to take off The Secret Service & Stingray TV Soundtracks from EBay & he did & said sorry to you guy's so he said in the reply E-Mail.

Thanks for reading my posting

Take Care

Captaincubbio2009

[Silent Bob]

If the Secret Service and Stingray soundtracks are originals and not copies, surely hes perfectly entitled to sell them?

[Simon Morris]

If the Secret Service and Stingray soundtracks are originals and not copies, surely hes perfectly entitled to sell them?


It's something of a grey area isn't it.

When STINGRAY was first released, some cheeky git put a copy on ebay within days (or even hours) and I think that was just....well, like I say, it was a hell of a cheek.

But really, after a while - and I don't know what period is acceptable - people have every right really to sell something on, if that's what they want to do. If people need the cash badly (and that's more than likely in these troubled times) I can't criticise someone for wanting to sell items that are likely to see quite a lot of interest outside of the Fanderson membership - and therefore a fairly high financial return.

As for captaincubbio....all well and good, 'telling' people what to do with Fanderson merchandise on ebay. But Advanced Google is a useful tool and it's amazing what names come up when you see who is distributing mp3s of these albums. And who is requesting to receive the same!

So people in glass houses.....

[Silent Bob]

I too have just done an Advanced Google search using CERTAIN key words.
mmmmmm... i see what you mean! :mad:

[Nick Haysom]

If the Secret Service and Stingray soundtracks are originals and not copies, surely hes perfectly entitled to sell them?

Not under the terms of Fanderson membership. You risk expulsion from the club... and the threat of worse... Of course if the seller did not buy them from Fanderson (eg was given them as a gift) I guess that's another matter.

[Silent Bob]

Perhaps someone from Fanderson should see who started this post and then take at look at these links.

http://http://tv-soundtracks.blogspot.com/2008/12/terrahawks-original-television.html

http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1579843/?report_comment=6582417&show_files=&page=1&rel=1227651970

http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1583449/775222/

Now i know why he was complaining about people selling discs on eBay. :mad:

[TonyB]

The links either do not work or are broken.

[Silent Bob]

Sorry about the broken links. (i'm new to all this net stuff)
But someone who may or may not be a Fanderson member is uploading CD rips of the Fanderson Stingray, Space 1999 and UFO to torrent groups and file sharing sites.

[Nick Haysom]

Now i know why he was complaining about people selling discs on eBay. :mad:

Perhaps it's a different Captain Cubbio.

My goodness, though, someone has been very busy. Looks as though uploading soundtracks is something of a crusade for this guy.

As for the links, the first should be

http://tv-soundtracks.blogspot.com/

but note that he has in fact removed almost all the downloads now. Given that, I don't think it matters linking to these now:
Gerry Anderson Shows (http://tv-soundtracks.blogspot.com/2008/12/music-from-gerry-anderson-shows-tv.html)
Space:1999 (http://tv-soundtracks.blogspot.com/search/label/.%20Space%3A%201999)
Terrahawks (http://tv-soundtracks.blogspot.com/search/label/.%20Terrahawks)

[TonyB]

Nick, I know exactly who Captain Cubbio is, although I did not realise that this was what he was doing with exclusive Fanderson material. The person involved ( I will not reveal his real name here although I know full well what it is), has recently rejoined Fandeson after a break from the club, he is also a member on the Eagletransporter forum.

I had some limited contact with this person via MSN Messenger a couple of years ago, and he requested that I send him the Fanderson CD soundtracks as MP3s that he was missing, lets just sat that 'persistent' did not cover the amount of times he tried to get to me to comply, in the end I just stopped using MSN as I was so fed up with him. The exact same thing happened with another member of Eagletransporter forum, he was so bombarded with requests from Captian Cubbio for Fanderson CDs that he told him in no uncertain terms what he thought of him and what he could do.

Capaian Cubbio, if you are reading this, behave yourself, the games up, and bear in mind that your membership with Fanderson could well be in jeopardy if you carry on, and that might well tell you why it is that I have not responded to your 'freind' request as I am just a little bit peed off with you and what you have been doing.

[jasonsmith]

I think we have said several times in the past that the Fanderson CDs only happen because each new one is funded by previous releases (and other merchandise projects).
It follows that the more members we have purchasing CDs at source (through Fanderson Sales) the better chance we have to produce new items.
Selling our CDs on ebay is a grey area. It would be nice to think that whilst CDS like Secret Service and Stingray are still new and more to the point still available through sales that they wouldn't start appearing on ebay as it takes away potential customers from the club.
As the Sales co-ordinator for Fanderson I did contact the person selling the CDS and politely pointed out the situation.He graciously withdrew the Secret Service and Stingray CDs from the listing.

As for dowloading/uploading the club CDs, I take an extremely dim view because it ultimately costs both the club and its membership vital funds to continue producing our merchandise.I think all of us will be extremely disappointed if it turns out that a club member is responsible.

Stephen Brown
Fanderson Sales

[Simon Morris]

That's probably all that needs to be said on the matter.

Incidentally, I too had a 'friend' request from said person within a short while of joining this forum - not my cup of tea, whoever makes the request. Little 'extra facilities' like 'friend options' are - to my mind anyway - the only drawbacks of this type of forum. Now I'm more au fait with the forum, I've disabled the facility within the Control Panel.

[Mr Jim]

I felt that I was practically stalked by him. He kept sending me friend requests, asking for MP3's etc. I couldn't escape from him, he kept appearing everywhere I went online. The guy is creepy.

[Nick Haysom]

He's never asked me to be his friend. :(

[Jaffa1978]

On the subject of these CDs there obviously is still a demand for them after they go out of print. Do you think this may give Fanderson and the licensees some cause to allow further print runs of these CDs. I certainly hope so at least for the UFO Soundtrack as someone else who has 'missed the boat'. £155 for a CD is loud of money! I'm sure when the current Stingray CDs run out the same will happen.

[TonyB]

There have been loads of incidents of absolutley crazy prices on eBay for the UFO and the two Space 1999 CDs, it would indicate that some people really do have more money than sense.

[Silent Bob]

On the subject of these CDs there obviously is still a demand for them after they go out of print. Do you think this may give Fanderson and the licensees some cause to allow further print runs of these CDs. I certainly hope so at least for the UFO Soundtrack as someone else who has 'missed the boat'. £155 for a CD is loud of money! I'm sure when the current Stingray CDs run out the same will happen.

You are right, there is still a big demand for these CDs, which is why i wasn't sure whether to post this message or not. I wont go into details but just a 15 minute Advanced Google search pointed the way to CD rips of every commercial and Fanderson release including the new Stingray soundtrack.
It's a shame, but thats one of the downsides of the Internet.

[Jaffa1978]

You are right, there is still a big demand for these CDs, which is why i wasn't sure whether to post this message or not. I wont go into details but just a 15 minute Advanced Google search pointed the way to CD rips of every commercial and Fanderson release including the new Stingray soundtrack.
It's a shame, but thats one of the downsides of the Internet.
Agreed, but surely there are plenty of people who want this music the legal way. I always think what they are misssing out on, they don't actually get the CD package itself, which seem to be fantastic products that Fanderson produce. Or am I deluded? Well, one can hope!

[Ekkie]

MP3 files are without any worth for collectors. True fans are buying CDs. I like to have original CDs with a nice booklet in my hands and in my collection. But I hate cut CDs (see SilvaScreen), where many tracks are missing. I like complete scores. The Fanderson CDs are almost complete, but some tracks are still missing...

[Silent Bob]

Unfortunately the CD rips on the net are in FLAC so there is no loss in quality and also the cheeky gits include hi-res scans of the covers, inlays and booklets. It seems to be a thriving cottage (but illegal) industry! :(

[Ekkie]

Unfortunately the CD rips on the net are in FLAC so there is no loss in quality and also the cheeky gits include hi-res scans of the covers, inlays and booklets. It seems to be a thriving cottage (but illegal) industry! :(

Collectors are collecting only original CDs. With computer files you can get data loss (including CD-R). An original CD do have a much longer life than a CD-R or a harddisk.

[Nick Haysom]

Collectors are collecting only original CDs. With computer files you can get data loss (including CD-R). An original CD do have a much longer life than a CD-R or a harddisk.

Do it? Really?

[Dougurasu]

On the subject of Captian Cubbio, I think I might know the guy a little better. Unfortunately he's suffering from some kind of syndrom, I'm afraid I don't know the name by heart, which makes it difficult for him to function socially. He's really not a bad guy and he tries to latch onto people and indeed continually bombards people with friend requests or asking them to join forums or sites or whatever, in fact it was him who guided me to this forum.

I'm not going to defend his uploading of soundtracks, but I am going to say that he is DEFENITELY an enormous Anderson show fan. He is a much bigger fan than me and I think he's truly a nice guy, so please try and be a bit more... well gentle I guess with him. To me it seems more that by uploading the tracks he's trying to spread the content with good intentions rather than bad.

However I understand that it must stop of course and I too, in the past, have been guilty of uploading at least a few soundtracks, but NOT without buying them first. Small excuse, but I can assure you that those links are down.

[Nick Haysom]

It has been postulated that all collectors have at least a mild form of autism - it's all a matter of degree, really. Unfortunately unless you meet someone face to face you can only judge them by their online activities. The internet is of course a godsend to those of us who can't function socially!

[Dougurasu]

It has been postulated that all collectors have at least a mild form of autism - it's all a matter of degree, really. Unfortunately unless you meet someone face to face you can only judge them by their online activities. The internet is of course a godsend to those of us who can't function socially!

Yes, I agree, I guess... I sometimes too feel I have a bit of autism, but nothing that stands in my way, I think.
However for some it might be more evident than others and I was rather trying to make you guys see him in a different, more accurate, light :) Really trying to make everyone friends of course.

[TonyB]

Dougurasu, I am fully aware of the situation with Captain Cubbio, unfortunately most of the membership on here and over on Eagletransporter were more than likely unaware and replied or responded in a manner that reflected their feelings at the time, had they been aware they may have tempered their response a little.

A couple of years back I had quite a few conversations on MSM and Craig told me quite openly all about his condition and his situation, his work on the hospital radio and his hobbies and interests, we had some nice conversations and I enjoyed talking to him.

However, it was when having found out what I had in my CD collection, especially with regards to Gerry Anderson and other movie soundtracks, that his attitude changed from having the occasional chat to constantly asking me to send him copies of the CDs or to convert them to MP3s and send him those. I did say on more than one occasion that I would not copy the Fanderson CDs as it was not right because it would hurt Fanderson finacially and I would not copy them.

He insisted that if I sent them they would not be duplicated or passed onto to other parties or uploaded to the net, however because of the very insistent nature of his requests I did not believe him. After being, what I can only describe as 'bombarded' with requests, I just either stopped going on MSN or would only go on as 'logged off' to see who was about first, basically just to aviod him, not that I disliked him or anything like that, but had it continued I would have lost my temper and I did not want that to happen.

The thing is though, when you say no, and say no as repeatedly as I did, surely no means no.

Anyway, that is water under the bridge, and I hold no hard feelings, hopefully Craig has learned his lesson and will not upload or copy future Fanderson material, and get on with enjoying the forum.

[rockwellcm]

Banned from club rubbish!

I bought a Fanderson cd from ebay 18 months ago sold by a well known shop,that had original links with the club from the start

Double standards or what!

[Dougurasu]

Dougurasu, I am fully aware of the situation with Captain Cubbio, unfortunately most of the membership on here and over on Eagletransporter were more than likely unaware and replied or responded in a manner that reflected their feelings at the time, had they been aware they may have tempered their response a little.

A couple of years back I had quite a few conversations on MSM and Craig told me quite openly all about his condition and his situation, his work on the hospital radio and his hobbies and interests, we had some nice conversations and I enjoyed talking to him.

However, it was when having found out what I had in my CD collection, especially with regards to Gerry Anderson and other movie soundtracks, that his attitude changed from having the occasional chat to constantly asking me to send him copies of the CDs or to convert them to MP3s and send him those. I did say on more than one occasion that I would not copy the Fanderson CDs as it was not right because it would hurt Fanderson finacially and I would not copy them.

He insisted that if I sent them they would not be duplicated or passed onto to other parties or uploaded to the net, however because of the very insistent nature of his requests I did not believe him. After being, what I can only describe as 'bombarded' with requests, I just either stopped going on MSN or would only go on as 'logged off' to see who was about first, basically just to aviod him, not that I disliked him or anything like that, but had it continued I would have lost my temper and I did not want that to happen.

The thing is though, when you say no, and say no as repeatedly as I did, surely no means no.

Anyway, that is water under the bridge, and I hold no hard feelings, hopefully Craig has learned his lesson and will not upload or copy future Fanderson material, and get on with enjoying the forum.

Yeah, sort of my experience too, I guess. He is usually quite insistant, but with me he usually offers me a lot too. You know, he's a soundtrack collector and loves to pass things on, so rare soundtracks he'd occassionally offer me. Usually I'm not interested, but sometimes it has some interesting stuff. Once, before the official Stingray soundtrack, he saw someone had uploaded Stingray background music. The quality was pretty terrible, but because he knew I liked it, I of course downloaded it. Luckily there's no need for those tracks anymore with the new soundtrack :D but that's something else.

What I am wondering, though, is unreleased music. Somehow I have seen occassions of music that has not been released on CD or other media but is still from Thunderbirds or Stingray or whatever. Is uploading and sharing that considered an offence to the club? Cause I have stuff and would love to share, but I would hate to lose my membership because of that.